Need Help with new computer and setting up old burner

[MetsMan]

Ok i bought a nice new dell and did not find out till i tried to install my pioneer 111d from my old computer that my new computers dvd drive which is a( sony AW-Q160S )according to device manager and it doesn't support bitsetting according to dvdinfopro and it's a SATA drive and not ATA so there is no cable inside to hook it up to so i need to know if there is something i can buy to remedy that or will a Pioneer DVR-S111B External (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130083567406&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=003)do the trick for burning my 360 games, Thanks in advance.

[PhilEnfield]

Are you certain there are no IDE ports on the motherboard ? ... i.e. could it just be that you need an IDE cable.

If definitely no IDE ports, there is no need to buy another drive .... just buy an external enclosure for the 111d. I've used this SVP one and it seems ok :

http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=371


HTH

[MetsMan]

Phil there are is no place just to plug in a IDE cable which seems pretty odd thats what confused me so i wasn't sure i could buy a add on card of some type but the easiest way sounds to be to buy the external enclosure, Thanks.

[PhilEnfield]

External enclosure should be ok, but a PCI IDE Card would work well ..... better IMO, if you have a spare slot and keeps it all neatly in the box .

[Van Nugent]

Newer mobos don't give you the legacy IDE ports anymore. If you're "lucky", the new mobo you just bought may have 1 IDE channel for 2 devices but many don't have any. Instead, they would have tons :) of SATA ports in place of the IDE ports. Also, the newer mobos only have 1 or 2 legacy PCI slots so an IDE PCI controller card may not be an option if we must also have other PCI cards (such as video capture card, sound card, etc.).

You can freely buy any IDE DVD burner of your choice and use an IDE to SATA adapter like the one in these pictures (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?Image=12%2D206%2D002%2D02%2Ejpg%2C12 %2D206%2D002%2D03%2Ejpg%2C12%2D206%2D002%2D04%2Ejp g%2C12%2D206%2D002%2D07%2Ejpg%2C12%2D206%2D002%2D0 6%2Ejpg%2C12%2D206%2D002%2D05%2Ejpg&CurImage=12%2D206%2D002%2D02%2Ejpg&Description=Rosewill+IDE+Device+to+SATA+Device+Min i+Vertical+Bridge+%28for+IDE+device%29+Model+RC204 %2D+Retail+%2D+Retail). I got a similar one with my new mobo and it works real good. Or you can get an external burner but IMO, internal burner will work better.

[PhilEnfield]

Nice to know the IDE to SATA adaptors work well Van .... I have seen them about, but always been a bit sceptical :tup:

[Van Nugent]

Yep, Phil! Three yrs ago, I bought the Asus A7V600 that also included an IDE-SATA adapter even though it did have 2 IDE channels. This little toy works great for me without problems. So does the 1 included with my new mobo. Now that newer mobos only have lots of SATA & USB ports but very few (or even no) IDE connections, the IDE to SATA adapters are nice to have to to use the IDE devices on newer mobos.

[PhilEnfield]

Good to know .... I've been lucky so far ..... just got a new rig with Asus mobo & AMD 5200+ and it has 2 SATA and 2 IDE, so not needed one yet.

But will stow away for future reference ;)

[REDBULL]

god i thought they would have at least 1 ide , anyways i use to have a ide pci card in my pc and had 2 burners hooked up to it as well as 2 burners on my m/b and hd on m/b raid and all worked fine even when burning with all 4

[REDBULL]

Good to know .... I've been lucky so far ..... just got a new rig with Asus mobo & AMD 5200+ and it has 2 SATA and 2 IDE, so not needed one yet.

But will stow away for future reference ;)

what model motherboard phil as ive been looking to up grade and all ive found is m/b with just the 1 ide, is it the dual core am2
cheers

[Van Nugent]

I've an AMD X2 6000+ on a Gigabyte GA-M59SLI-S5 that also has only 1 IDE channel but 8 SATA 3Gb/s ports on 2 separate controllers. I never use the IDE port. I love SATA because it's faster and neater. I do use an old IDE hard drive for backup storage in this system but via an IDE-SATA adapter.

[PhilEnfield]

what model motherboard phil as ive been looking to up grade and all ive found is m/b with just the 1 ide, is it the dual core am2
cheers
This is the mobo :

http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1171&l1=3&l2=101&l3=305

It's nothing special, but was recommended to me for being rock solid ..... time will tell ;)

[Van Nugent]

If you have a mobo like Phil's that has 3 or 4 PCI slots, an IDE PCI controller card is the better option.

[REDBULL]

cheers guys

[MetsMan]

Newer mobos don't give you the legacy IDE ports anymore. If you're "lucky", the new mobo you just bought may have 1 IDE channel for 2 devices but many don't have any. Instead, they would have tons :) of SATA ports in place of the IDE ports. Also, the newer mobos only have 1 or 2 legacy PCI slots so an IDE PCI controller card may not be an option if we must also have other PCI cards (such as video capture card, sound card, etc.).

You can freely buy any IDE DVD burner of your choice and use an IDE to SATA adapter like the one in these pictures (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?Image=12%2D206%2D002%2D02%2Ejpg%2C12 %2D206%2D002%2D03%2Ejpg%2C12%2D206%2D002%2D04%2Ejp g%2C12%2D206%2D002%2D07%2Ejpg%2C12%2D206%2D002%2D0 6%2Ejpg%2C12%2D206%2D002%2D05%2Ejpg&CurImage=12%2D206%2D002%2D02%2Ejpg&Description=Rosewill+IDE+Device+to+SATA+Device+Min i+Vertical+Bridge+%28for+IDE+device%29+Model+RC204 %2D+Retail+%2D+Retail). I got a similar one with my new mobo and it works real good. Or you can get an external burner but IMO, internal burner will work better.

Van that looks like a good solution for me but my one question looking at the pictures i take it that it attaches to behind my burner and the sata cable runs from it to the board, Thanks again guys for your help.:cheers:

[Van Nugent]

Yep, the adapter has an IDE connector on 1 side that goes directly onto the one on your IDE drive. The other side has an SATA data connector that will be connected to the SATA port on the mobo via an SATA cable. This side also has a power connector as we can see in the pics.

Edit: I forgot to say that the power connector on the adaptor is used to power the adapter only. You'll need to power the drive by a separate connector and that's what the included splitter cable is for. :)

[MetsMan]

Yep, the adapter has an IDE connector on 1 side that goes directly onto the one on your IDE drive. The other side has an SATA data connector that will be connected to the SATA port on the mobo via an SATA cable. This side also has a power connector as we can see in the pics.

Edit: I forgot to say that the power connector on the adaptor is used to power the adapter only. You'll need to power the drive by a separate connector and that's what the included splitter cable is for. :)

Nice i will order it right now.:luxhello:

[MetsMan]

Well i ordered the Rosewill IDE Device to SATA Device Mini Vertical Bridge (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812206002)and i hooked it up and couldn't get my computer to recognize the new drive so i figured i would take out the new burner and install my pioneer as my one drive ,well it found it and installed drivers i had to reboot and once again no drive is listed at all anywhere in device manger or my computer so need some help as to what to try next..lol

EDIT: well even though i rebooted like 5 times last night with no success when i started the computer this morning the drive was listed.:confused:

EDIT2: looks like after doing some research i need to install the drive then have to go in bios and turn on the SATA port if i want to add another drive...well at least i learned something today!