Why doesnt some disks work in my Panasonic DMRE55?

[oadbyfox]

OK guys,
i have just got myself a Panasonic DMRE55 (Multi-region DVD Recorder) from Richer Sounds for £229, i have loads of backup dvds(on ritek) which work fine on my ps2 and yamada 2100 player, why the hell dont they play on my new recorder? i thought it played everything! Your help is most appreciated......am i doing somethign wrong?

[geobon]

It does play everything, but what ive noticed with the panasonics is that it will only play DVD films that are 100% DVD compliant, To me this is a good thing as it lets you know what films aren't, If it isn't 100% you'll usually get the U11 read error message, Anyhow it may be a media issue also, but to check this try opening a DVD that wont play in the panasonic with DVDshrink, If shrink analyses the full disc then it is DVD compliant.

[NaughtyLondonBoy]

i have a E50 and mine can be fussy sometimes too. all mine are ritek too but some it just wont recognise but my lovely and faithful yamada takes them all day long!

never quite worked out why as theyre all burnt from dvd images and are proper dvds now converted or anything.

geobon-your suggestion sounds so complicated! maybe thats just cos ive never used shrink and im a bit of a lazy-a$$ lolol

[oadbyfox]

thanks guys, geobon i hve never burnt dvds on pc so dont understand shrink, i must say i am surprised that all my films dont play but glad still kept my yamada, one final question is it wise to check with traders to check whether they are full dvd compliant?

[Ogs]

when i bough my DVD player i made a point of asking the store manager, that if it didnt play the cds/ dvds i was burning could i take it back, if not could i bring a disc on (just a sample vcd not an actual film) they obliged and i have a dvd player that plays everything i throw at it

*edit*

just explain to the manager that ur not prepared to buy something that doesnt play all your material as u previously have done before

[geobon]

geobon-your suggestion sounds so complicated! maybe thats just cos ive never used shrink and im a bit of a lazy-a$$ lolol
Not complicated at all m8, Just open shrink with the disc in your reader and click on Open Disc, It will then analyse the disc, If it completes ok its fully compliant, Imagine how i feel lol i go through this with every disc, and if they aren't 100% compliant i reauthor them, That way i know that every disc i have will play in any player,

steven_ogilvie
I have players that play everything also, but i want my dvds to play in any player, Having a player that plays anything is fine but is not much use if you trade etc and they wont play in anyone elses thats fussy or only plays 100% compliant dvds. If you get what i mean.

[handyguy]

Try to copy to another media. I use Accu media, they play in everything I put them in including three of my panasonics, apex, sonys, etc.

[Ogs]

steven_ogilvie
I have players that play everything also, but i want my dvds to play in any player, Having a player that plays anything is fine but is not much use if you trade etc and they wont play in anyone elses thats fussy or only plays 100% compliant dvds. If you get what i mean.
good point i never thought of it that way

[jase1]

Somewhat ironically, the Panasonic DVD recorder series produce discs that are not 100% DVD compliant!!! Try playing them back in some LG or Mustek players. No go. DVD Shrink spits about 20% of Panasonic discs, especially ones created with the E20/E30.

The Philips is no better. DVD Shrink rejects *all* discs created by Philips recorders.

The Toshiba RDXS30 doesn't seem to have this problem, possibly because it creates DVDRs in one go, ie they are not authored on-the-fly, which I think is the problem with Philips and Panasonic machines.

DVD Authoring is an immensely complicated and difficult subject. Even some retail discs are not DVD compliant.

[geobon]

yep it is complicated jase1 but you know where im coming from, panasonics & pioneers will refuse to play a dvd if it has even a corrupt .bup file, As you say most of it is down to authouring and theres many groups out there that ripp out the extras on certain movies without re-linking etc, The fact is if all the IFO & BUP files match up with the VOBS then it should play.

oadbyfox (http://www.dvdrom-guide.com/forums/member.php?u=516)
If its all your films that wont play and not just a few i'd be taking it back for a refund m8. But out of curiousity are you sure it isn't DVD+R your films are on.

[oadbyfox]

Geoben, you may have a point, i will need to double-check, i have found out that one is definately not dvd compliant and am getting it exchanged. I thought most people used dvd-r

[fawlty]

Compliance may not be the problem. What burner are you using? I ask because I know my LG doesn't like Ritek whereas the AO6 does. Riteks burned on the LG will work on the PC but not in the DVD player, whereas the exact same image if burned on the Pioneer works in both. I did a bit of research on the net & found that it is indeed a common problem. I now use TDK with the LG and they work fine. I've also heard that Nec burners (e.g. 2500), aren't happy with Ritek.

[Billy_Black]

Compliance may not be the problem. What burner are you using? I ask because I know my LG doesn't like Ritek whereas the AO6 does. Riteks burned on the LG will work on the PC but not in the DVD player, whereas the exact same image if burned on the Pioneer works in both. I did a bit of research on the net & found that it is indeed a common problem. I now use TDK with the LG and they work fine. I've also heard that Nec burners (e.g. 2500), aren't happy with Ritek.
What FW are you using? Is it an LG 4040B? A301 had problems with Ritek G04's (not G03's though, they worked fine). With the current FW A303 the RitekG04 appear to be a perfect match, no errors and a very nice Transfer Test result in Nero CD Speed.

http://mars.walagata.com/w/mysticx/RitekG04s.jpg

They've played great in every player I've had access to. Sampo, JVC, Sony. Daewoo and a Panasonic E50. They are all I use.

[oadbyfox]

I dont have a burner, i have had my films backed up! Dont know what burner has been used

[fawlty]

Yes it is indeed the 4040b. I'll try the new firmware & see how it goes. Thanks for the tip Billy_Black.

[handyguy]

"DVD Shrink spits about 20% of Panasonic discs, especially ones created with the E20/E30."

Why are you using shrink on them? That makes no sense cause the panasonic doesn't encode disks so you don't need shrink.

[Jesterrace]

Crap, I just bought an S-35 DVD Player. It looked really good and the price was right. Almost all of my projects are re-authors with DVD Shrink. Did I just blow $52USD?

[jase1]

"DVD Shrink spits about 20% of Panasonic discs, especially ones created with the E20/E30."

Why are you using shrink on them? That makes no sense cause the panasonic doesn't encode disks so you don't need shrink.... because I had problems reading them on some DVD players, so I decided to see if a quick re-authoring with DVD-Shrink would sort them out (progs like DVD-Shrink and DVD Decrypter reauthor the DVDs as they go along, rewriting the BUP/IFO files) -- and to my surprise I found that DVD-Shrink didn't like them either.

As it happens, it seems that running them through DVD Decrypter seems to sort the compatibility issues with these discs out.

Generally, in my experience standalone DVD recorders that record on-the-fly (basically all of them EXCEPT the Toshiba RDXS30 which records to HDD first, then burns a pre-authored DVDR in the same way a PC would) are not fully DVD compliant, mainly because the IFO/BUP files written are often corrupted or otherwise incorrect.

[handyguy]

I think the panasonic writes them as VRO files & you have to rename to VOB then import.

"I just bought an S-35 DVD Player." Mine always played anything I made with dvdshrink

[Jesterrace]

Thanks handyguy. Good to know. ;)

[steve54]

panasonics only write vro files on ram discs.

[scrumpy]

panasonics dont like dvdrs that have cdfs as the file system,udf/raw is fine ,thats what i`ve found anyway,hope that helps a bit


scrump

[handyguy]

Setting the record mode in the panasonic from auto to fixed can make things work better too. Because it then makes a set size picture instead of a variable one.

[oadbyfox]

Thanks for all your help guys, appreciate it!
The problem is a couple of my fdvds have not been burnt to be fully dvd compliant, have got them redone and now work fine!