Having mare burning verbs !!!!

[curlie]

Hi Guys, right bought a new drive pioneer 111d. The verbs i bought a week ago are the 8 speed jobbys bought 3.50 a pop. these are fine and the box boots these so was definatly my old drive ( for those who read my last post ) however i ordered a tub of printable verbs ive burnt 7 so far and only one has been successfull. all the others get to 99% and then i get the dreaded " OH NO" so it would appear the disks are poney , any ideas guys ?

[garyxbox360]

verb discs are usually the dogs bollocks ive never had a problem with it r u sure ur writer aint faulty does it burn other things fully ??

[PhilEnfield]

Where did you buy the disks ? ..... if SVP, send them an email and claim a refund, as Verbs should work like a dream on the 111D.

[Jesterrace]

Hi Guys, right bought a new drive pioneer 111d. The verbs i bought a week ago are the 8 speed jobbys bought 3.50 a pop. these are fine and the box boots these so was definatly my old drive ( for those who read my last post ) however i ordered a tub of printable verbs ive burnt 7 so far and only one has been successfull. all the others get to 99% and then i get the dreaded " OH NO" so it would appear the disks are poney , any ideas guys ?

BTW we talking about the 360 or XBOX1 here? If it is the 360, it would help if we knew which drive you had in it. Also what firmware does your Pioneer have on it?

[al sithee]

Hi.
Having a verb prob myself at the mo.Always used 10 packs of 2.4 printable
verbs.Burning with a 108.All 360 games, I usually burn at 4x no probs but
my most recent pack i can only burn at 2.4.any 4x burns crash.Maybe
it's a new dye.Very strange.

[REDBULL]

WELL i thought it was just me , verbs are hard to get at the mo so im wondering if they have been shiping there rejects as the last 2 tubs ive had have been a mixed bunch of the " o no "

ps most places are sold out of um but svp have um , they did put the price up though lol makes you wonder if verbatim have let there quality control slip to meet demands ?

[PhilEnfield]

WELL i thought it was just me , verbs are hard to get at the mo so im wondering if they have been shiping there rejects as the last 2 tubs ive had have been a mixed bunch of the " o no "

ps most places are sold out of um but svp have um , they did put the price up though lol makes you wonder if verbatim have let there quality control slip to meet demands ?
I doubt that .... it's more likely that they are being faked by some bunch of Far Eastern corooks and being passed off as the real thing through dodgy outlets/comp fairs etc.

I and a number of m8's have used 100's of these and never had a problem ....... where did you get them ? ..... was it a reputable outfit like SVP ?

[JET_PILOT]

I recently got some verbs and the media code is coming up as this

Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01

I thought it was different to this ?

[Master_Yoda69]

I recently got some verbs and the media code is coming up as this

Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01

I thought it was different to this ?

Verbs are MKM 001 I believe, I doubt Verbs would use the Ritek dye, seems more likely that they are fakes or datashite,ridisc.
Ridisc printable ones use the dye you mentioned so if they are printable ones then I'd say you have been given those.

[justpaper]

yea seems like alot of the so called wholesale sellers are selling off ****,. happened too me a number of times with 1 seller,. each time i ordered printables they sent cheaper crap,. u gotta watch what ur buying

[al sithee]

Got my verbs from scan tho,one of the most reliable and trusted shops
there is.Could do with some input from the guys over at BST as there are
enough on there using verbs to give us a broader view of whats going on.

[burpy]

The verbs i got from SVP last thursday are MKM-001-00 which is what they should be for verbs

[Wayguns]

The verbs i got from SVP last thursday are MKM-001-00 which is what they should be for verbs

Likewise :)

[PhilEnfield]

The verbs i got from SVP last thursday are MKM-001-00 which is what they should be for verbs
Same here 3 tubs of 10 all MKM 001

[JET_PILOT]

Looks like I've been done then :(

I shall be composing an email this evening ;)

[REDBULL]

yes mine are from svp, the problem i get is that the disks arent reconised ? after ejecting a few times they get reconised , im sending me brand new 111 back now so hopefully that will be the prob ?

these are the printable ones in the tubs of 25

heres info on mine

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.23 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R DL
Disc Information:
Status: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 4,173,824
Free Space: 8,547,991,552 bytes
Free Time: 927:32:74 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x
DVD+R DL Boundary Information:
L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912
Changeable: Yes
Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519
Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519

[koasty]

Got the same drive with same firmware as you. Burnt 20 of these Verbs over the weekend for the 360.....All perfect. Good move sending the drive back i reckon. You shouldn't have ANY probs with Verbs.


yes mine are from svp, the problem i get is that the disks arent reconised ? after ejecting a few times they get reconised , im sending me brand new 111 back now so hopefully that will be the prob ?

these are the printable ones in the tubs of 25

heres info on mine

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.23 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R DL
Disc Information:
Status: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 4,173,824
Free Space: 8,547,991,552 bytes
Free Time: 927:32:74 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x
DVD+R DL Boundary Information:
L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912
Changeable: Yes
Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519
Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519

[andy*1]

i brought some verbs today had no problem burning and playing any other discs but burned 2 verbs and 2 coasters looks as though theve burnt a big lead in very light burn at the begining not the same as my other discs

[REDBULL]

i brought some verbs today had no problem burning and playing any other discs but burned 2 verbs and 2 coasters looks as though theve burnt a big lead in very light burn at the begining not the same as my other discs


snap just did nhl 2k7 and had exactly the same thing , this was using a diferent 111d to the one im sending back minr has a lighter ring just above the leadin and when i put it in the 360 it doesnt even no theres a disk in there , notice the layer breaks are different and the status for the coaster says incomplete , i really think that due to shortages of verbs they have let there quality control slip , i use to work for a multi billion company and when things got busy and orders were behind we use to put rejectsin with the good, really was funny cos they would have temps taking the packages apart and putting in the rejects just to make the numbers up because of late delivery penaltys , call me over suspious but that my own opinion.

info for coaster
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.29 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R DL
Disc Information:
Status: Incomplete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Free Sectors: 16,000
Free Space: 32,768,000 bytes
Free Time: 03:35:25 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x
DVD+R DL Boundary Information:
L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,913,760
Changeable: No
Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519
Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519
Layer Information:
Layer 0 Sectors: 2,086,912 (2.087E8%)
Layer 1 Sectors: 4,292,880,385 (-2.087E8%)

good disk info
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.29 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R DL
Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 3,697,696
Size: 7,572,881,408 bytes
Time: 821:44:46 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x
DVD+R DL Boundary Information:
L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,913,760
Changeable: No
Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519
Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD-ROM
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,450,783
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,110,367
Layer Information:
Layer 0 Sectors: 1,913,760 (51.76%)
Layer 1 Sectors: 1,783,936 (48.24%)

[PhilEnfield]

Are these the printable verbs or the normal 2.4 10 packs ?

snap just did nhl 2k7 and had exactly the same thing , this was using a diferent 111d to the one im sending back minr has a lighter ring just above the leadin and when i put it in the 360 it doesnt even no theres a disk in there , notice the layer breaks are different and the status for the coaster says incomplete , i really think that due to shortages of verbs they have let there quality control slip , i use to work for a multi billion company and when things got busy and orders were behind we use to put rejectsin with the good, really was funny cos they would have temps taking the packages apart and putting in the rejects just to make the numbers up because of late delivery penaltys , call me over suspious but that my own opinion.

info for coaster
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.29 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R DL
Disc Information:
Status: Incomplete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Free Sectors: 16,000
Free Space: 32,768,000 bytes
Free Time: 03:35:25 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x
DVD+R DL Boundary Information:
L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,913,760
Changeable: No
Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519
Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519
Layer Information:
Layer 0 Sectors: 2,086,912 (2.087E8%)
Layer 1 Sectors: 4,292,880,385 (-2.087E8%)

good disk info
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.29 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R DL
Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 3,697,696
Size: 7,572,881,408 bytes
Time: 821:44:46 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x
DVD+R DL Boundary Information:
L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,913,760
Changeable: No
Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519
Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD-ROM
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,450,783
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,110,367
Layer Information:
Layer 0 Sectors: 1,913,760 (51.76%)
Layer 1 Sectors: 1,783,936 (48.24%)

[REDBULL]

printable 25 pack mate

has anyone had any good sucess with other brands ?

cheers

[PhilEnfield]

Hmmmmm. ............. Curlie's original post was referring to printables too, so maybe SVP have aquired a duff batch.

Email them and complain and get them changed for the 2.4 10 packs.

[REDBULL]

i have thought about it, but im probably like the rest on here and just put up with it . im down to my last 10 so i wont be getting no more till there in good circulation again and other sites have them in stock, which at the mo only seems too be svp ? think ill try the ritek ones and give them a bash

[PhilEnfield]

You'll be surprised how good SVP's aftersales service is .... if you send them a polite email, they'll aggee to swap them out, coasters and all.

Nothing to lose ;)

[REDBULL]

yes agree svp do have a very good aftersales , i remember a few years back the big boss rang me and gave me his personel email addy when i had a problem and got it sorted for me asp

[curlie]

Hi guys, wow this ones taken off !!! sorry for no input been away with work, yeah bought a 25 spindled pack of printable verbs from svp

[orangeman]

had nothing but good service from svp in the past, id defo get an email out to them asap m8 and sort out some new discs!!!

guys who aint getting the right dye are u all ordering from svp also????

as to the light burning ring ppl where getting with the verbs i have never had a verb do this to me only ridiscs/xtreme + datasafe/bulkpak have done this in the past.

i can see in redbull's info that the dye info is however correct and must be down to a batch being crap or as some have said them throwing anything out the door!!!!

fire an email off to svp and have them claim off there supplier!!!